07/07/07 279 W, 1 I - + 22 - 7 Random Notes


Raleigh's new Rescue 14 was still not in service as of Friday. The new Pierce engine and ladder are due around July 23, give or take a few days. The ladder is going to 16... The city has also received some new admin and support vehicles, including new wheels for Car 2. Old Car 2 (Tahoe) is going to Battalion 4. Old Car 5 (Excursion) went to Battalion 2... Speaking of Assistant Chiefs, the change of command took place this week. Best to each in their new roles... We've noticed Apex sending their ladder truck to Morrisville over the last two weeks. Is the latter's ladder out of service..?

Some details on the Charleston memorial service. The procession featured 252 vehicles. It was 7.5 miles long. CFD members were all off-duty for a number of days. The South Carolina Firefighter Mobilization group filled the stations with personnel (and equipment?) from around the state... Speaking of mobilization groups, saw something similar in Minneapolis. Four pieces of new-looking apparatus at a deactivated MFD station. Tractor-drawn rescue, medium rescue, pumper, and chief's car. Might have been a ladder there, too. Was told the task force was part of a state-wide system of resources...

The first annual Fallen Firefighters Foundation Golf Tournament the other week raised approximately $17,000k. Over 140 players participated in the all-day event. Next year's tourney is scheduled for June 12, 2008... Blog's been quiet, but there's been a bit of recent activity on the Watch Desk, discussing media coverage in the context of the recent rescues by Halifax County firefighters... Finally, from a reader, the rear of an ALF ladder from Valley Cottage, NY. The gap to the right is the LDH chute. Chevrons.





M’ville’s ladder’s in the shop, thus Apex, Parkwood, or Durham are responding of late with ladders… Raleigh’s newest Pierce pumper’s also going to 16, or so we’re heard…
Legeros - 07/07/07 - 21:24

Any reason why 2 of Cary ladders that can cover Mo’ville on 2 sides aren’t (Ladder 1 on the north side and Ladder 5 on the SW side)? 2 of Cary’s 3 ladders can cover parts of Mo’ville better than their 1?
guest - 07/08/07 - 13:00

It is a CAD thing. Cary is not in the Raleigh/Wake CAD system. Same reason Swift Creek and Fairview go to Apex and have to pass a Cary Fire Station to get there. Not the best reason, but it is the truth.
Another Guest - 07/08/07 - 16:16

I don’t believe that this is totally correct. We have all kinds of units that are not primarily dispatched by RWECC in running orders – Durham County, Bethesda, Parkwood, Granville County, etc. I believe that the respective chiefs could alter the running order if they wanted to….RWECC just has to call for that particular resource to the other dispatch center.

They may have made the decision that the longer travel distance is better than the delay between the comm centers.

Skip
Skip Kirkwood (Email) (Web Site) - 07/10/07 - 13:41

As I understand it, those you list are a department recommendation only, not a unit/unit type recommendation. We have the issue at Swift Creek, we can have Cary FD on the run card, but we have no way to specify a unit/unit type (rescue, ladder, truck, etc). Say we wanted Cary Ladder 3 to respond automatically to a certain structure, all we could request for CAD to do is recommend CFD and CAD can not request a unit or unit type. What if CFD L-3 was on a call, then would it send L-1 from across town instead of maybe Garner since we specified CFD and not a county ladder?

Since RWECC can not monitor the unit status of those other units, it does not know if they are in service and available, so CAD is looking for the next quickest Ladder and it only knows about the ones it keeps up with the status of so it skips Cary FD.

That is how I understand it and I have been wrong before, so if someone knows different, please speak up and let me know.

The CAD can for confusing and complicated if we let it. For the most part it does just what we have asked it to do. Dealing with units not on the system (Cary and out of county) add a level of complexity for sure.

Also, I think, unit capabilities and run cards effect dispatches more than anything, but that is another topic. What make an Engine different from a Pumper-Tanker from an Engine-specialty? I know why those units attributes are being used, but there is not a standard for each unit from department to department.
Griggs - 07/10/07 - 15:49

One of the differences is that a pumper tanker has the ability to and has a rear dump where a straight up engine doesn’t. If you look at the county engs a lot of them have that rear jet dump, then if you look at Lee’s pictures, you will see that Garner’s new engines are exactly that engines, they don’t have the rear jet dump.
Mike - 07/10/07 - 20:36



  
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