07/12/07 50 W, 1 I - + 13 - 21 High-Rise Training

That's high-rise training you're hearing on the BATT channel, starting today. Five engines, two ladders, and one rescue, plus chiefs, at the Tri-Towers at NCSU. Bowen, Metcalf, and Carroll. They're drilling over the next couple weeks on new high-rise procedures. Pics forthcoming.

Could anyone give insight into the new procedures? Are they moving to the Rapid Ascent Team concept implemented by the Chicago FD?
Flip - 07/13/07 - 05:29

What are they using the trash cans for in the pictures, is it a method to help in hauling gear up to the fire floors??
Curious - 07/14/07 - 23:24

The trash cans were just there already, so yes, the FF’s used one to help haul the many air bottles to the scene. As for the new procedures, its classified top secret.
lee - 07/15/07 - 01:03

Here is some additional information, from a prior blog posting: http://www.legeros.com/ralwake/photos/we... For a reported fire in any building over a certain height, the dispatch assignments will be greater. Two more engines, and a second ladder. Plus additional resources. In-station training was conducted to learn the facts of the new procedures, and these drills are being conducted to test and practice the execution of the new procedures.
Legeros - 07/15/07 - 05:57

Here are some random, non-Raleigh links on high-rise firefighting:

Educational slide show on fighting high-rise fires:

Fighting high-rise and extreme high-rise fires:

News article on training, with this great quote:
‘If you have a fire in a 40-story tower, the people on the other 39 floors are probably not even aware something went on” [...] “It’s not like ‘The Towering Inferno’ or anything like you see in the movies.”

FDNY high rise units:

High Rise Emergency Handbook, City of Seattle (PDF):

There are tons more. Search “hi rise fire”, “high-rise firefighting,” “skyscraper fires”, etc.
Legeros - 07/15/07 - 06:46

Lee is making a joke, by the way. We’re happy to share what we know.
Legeros - 07/15/07 - 17:18

For those interested, they are now training on West Campus in Sullivan Hall. It’s still a high rise though.
CFP743 - 07/17/07 - 15:33

Sullivan is a lot nicer, more space, those tri-towers were so cramp once you put two kids with all there stuff in there you could hardly move, and when I first got to NCSU, there were only a handful of dorms with AC. At least at Sullivan you had the front area of the each floor kind of like a porch, the tri-towers you just had the bricks… Ahh fun times. Speaking of hi-rise I was there when a girl hung her marching band uniform on the newly installed sprinkler head and flooded two floors below her. As far as tactics, I can tell you from experience one of the biggest issues for NCSU and any dorm situation is going to be getting everyone out… We had 5 alarms in one night (3 hour period) at Lee Hall (Sullivan’s twin) after the third time you could tell not too many people were taking it seriously and were not evacuating and despite the fire inspections that occurred you still got really creative when it came to finding and making enough electrical connections.
Duke - 07/17/07 - 17:55

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