05/04/06 39 W, 1 I - + 18 - 19 Raleigh's New Ladder

Raleigh's new ladder was delivered on Monday, a 2006 Pierce Dash 105-foot rear-mount that will bump Truck 26, a 1988 Pierce Arrow snorkel, to the reserve queue. Here's a picture from Lee Wilson:

The Pierce engines are still a couple weeks away, by the way.
Legeros - 05/04/06 - 02:46

So will this be stationed on Barwell Rd?
[jaolson] (Email) - 05/04/06 - 04:38

It is unknown if it will be stationed on Barwell Road. Truck 26 will receive a newer apparatus, however.
Legeros - 05/04/06 - 04:50

Now they need to get a few tankers….
[jaolson] (Email) - 05/04/06 - 06:40

So when will raleigh get a platform. The last 5 trucks bought are all sticks. Just wondering what the thing is behind just buying sticks.
Adam (Email) - 05/04/06 - 15:32

Raleigh’s last platform was delivered in 1999 and presently serves as Truck 20. That and Truck 16, delivered in 1995, will be the only frontline platforms after Truck 26, the snorkel, is relegated to reserve status. For some time, there was speculation that the 1977 Mack platform might be rehabbed, with the Baker boom moved to a modern chassis. Those things last forever.
Legeros - 05/04/06 - 15:48

If they rehab the baker, put me on it!!!! You’re right, they do last forever.
Silver - 05/04/06 - 22:25

The new ladder in Raleigh is going to #26, found that out today from a birdie in services.
guest - 05/04/06 - 22:26

Does anyone know the reason for just buyingsicks? Why does RFD need Tankers?
Chris King (Email) - 05/04/06 - 23:36

Tankers would improve RFDs ability to protect some of the “doughnut holes” around Raleigh— those unincorporated areas without municipal water supplies. The city could assume fire protection, thus freeing county departments, thus allowing those resources to be allocated elsewhere. Of course, annexation of such fringe areas might not be entirely desireable, especially if the cost of municipal services exceeds the revenue generated by the newly taxed residents.
Legeros - 05/05/06 - 02:23

The “doughnut holes” in Raleigh are just like the “holes” in Cary. It seems that it would be cheaper for the county and a better service for the citizens if the 2 larger municipal departments were given rural districts. This way they wouldnt have to be annexed and the municipal departments could receive county contracts and the county funding to serve the areas and buy the equipment needed to fully handle it, Ie: The tankers.
fireone - 05/05/06 - 03:06

will not happen any time soon… too many things ride on having a municipal water supply at hand such as ISO ratings and accreditation. As at least one fire chief has said that they are not in the tanker business… the cost to equip and train would not be cost effective. It actually makes more sense to keep the rural depts around for the rural water supply operations. Not to mention having to build more fire stations, hire more full time personnel, etc… You also have to remember that neither Raleigh nor Cary have hard suction on their engines, just one more cost. There is no way that shutting down county fire stations that serve these “holes” and the surrounding areas would save enough money to take care of the additional costs that the municipalities would incur. while I will not say that it will never happen.. it is highly unlikely that you’ll ever see it. annexation and providing municipal services, yes… the larger municipal departments providing service to unincorporated areas and contracting with the county… it would be a stretch that I can’t even imagine
CFP 7021 - 05/05/06 - 04:16

Has there ever been talk of merging any county departments with Raleigh as has happened in Guilford County with departments merging with Greensboro ie. Guliford College Fire Department or Fire District#14. Guilford College FD was losing a tremendous amount of their tax base to annexation and made the decision to merge. They became Greensboro Engine#17 and continue to cover their district. Greensboro as a result provides protection to areas of the county not yet a part of the city.
Noah Rogers (Email) - 05/05/06 - 14:27

There are only five county stations (around Raleigh and Cary) that could be good candidates for a Greensboro/Guilford-style merger: Bay Leaf #3 (Raleigh), Falls (Raleigh or even Wake Forest), New Hope #1 (Raleigh), Western Wake #1 (Raleigh), and Western Wake #2 (Cary).
Legeros - 05/05/06 - 14:34

If you really did the math and ran the numbers I think you may be able to add Swift Creek, Fairview Station 1 and Durham Hwy. Station 2 to that list. Im not saying that those stations need to be closed but maybe reloacted to better serve the core of their districts since the municipal departments have encroached as much as they have on their original locations.
Fireone - 05/06/06 - 00:11

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