05/13/06 223 W - + 16 - 20 RFD Apparatus Updates

Some Raleigh apparatus updates... the incoming Pierce Enforcer engines are due in a few more weeks and may be assigned to stations 3, 5, 8, and 12. The new Pierce Arrow XT ladder has been lettered for Truck 26 and may be in service as early as next week. The 1986 Seagrave ladder is completely out of service and no longer a reserve. It'll be auctioned at some point, along with three Mack pumpers that have been sitting at Services for some time now. Thus, the reserve ladders will be the 1990 Spartan ladder, the 1988 Pierce snorkel (once removed from service), and the 1977 Mack platform. The new Freightliner/Hackney haz-mat truck is still a few weeks away from being in service. The present Haz-Mat 2, the 1991 Simon/E-One, will likely remain part of haz-mat and stay at Station 2. The role of SR2 is presently being performed by the new mini-pumper and trailer. Alas, we don't know at this time if the mini-pumper will remain at Station 2 or be sent to Station 9, so Mini 9 can be returned to Station 3. Old SR2, the 1988 GMC extended panel van, is being converted to a mobile command post. The unit may be named "fire command." New apparatus has also been requested in the 2007 budget, though tight monies may keep many of those requests from being fulfilled. More on that at a later time.

Does anyone know what the request are for 2007 as far as apparatus updates..
Chris King (Email) - 05/13/06 - 16:52

Any word about additional mapower in the budget – other than positions for E#28?
Noah Rogers (Email) - 05/13/06 - 20:33

E-15 will be replaced, not E-5
guest - 05/13/06 - 23:57

Duh, yes, Engine 15, not Engine 5.
Legeros - 05/14/06 - 03:24

Budget proposals for the city will be public after Tuesday nights CIty Council meeting. Then maybe we’ll see any other apparatus to be purchased in the future?
guest - 05/14/06 - 06:47

The city council meeting was today for the City of Raleigh. Looks like the proposal for Raleigh will be a replacement ladder and engine next year. Also, they proposed adding a “Planner” position to help with the future of the FD and improving the ISO rating.
Guest - 05/16/06 - 21:14

What’s the word on the Heavy Rescue that the new chief requested/ordered several weeks ago.And where will it be stationed.
JDK - 05/17/06 - 14:17

Regarding some of the apparatus rumors and speculations…

The single aerial apparatus in the proposed 2006-2007 budget could be a tiller, spec’ed the same Truck 1, and replacing the 1995 Simon-Duplex platform presently serving at Station 16. Locating a modern tiller at Station 16 is probably entirely possible, as the apparatus bays of the 1979 facility were extended to accomodate the 1979 Mack / 1958 American LaFrance tiller that also served at that location. If the final budget includes the proposed funding for an aerial apparatus, whatever is purchased will probably take several months or more to be delivered.

There have been stories and speculation that a dedicated “heavy rescue” company has been proposed, or requested, or planned for the future. The proposed 2006-2007 budget includes only 15 new positions in Operations, and those are for Station 28. Thus the budget does reflect the necessary third and fourth positions, Captain and another firefighter, necessary to convert one of the present two-person companies to a four-person company. However, there are probably other pathways to reach this goal, if it is a goal, beyond positions added in a budget.
Legeros - 05/17/06 - 20:10

Regarding rescue apparatus, the fire department reportedly desires to replace the two 2000 Freightliner/ALF units. Based on the proposed budget highlights, they did not appear to make this year’s “cut.” They would reportedly be replaced with heavier-duty units and without patient transport compartments. The reason that heavier-duty units were not purchased in 2000 is not known. Perhaps the 46 year-old (at that time) tradition of having one or more fire department rescue units capable of transporting patients was a difficult habit to break.
Legeros - 05/17/06 - 20:23

I think the transport capability evolved due to an OEMS requirement. Since RFD has desired to be an ALS provider with the defibs, I think (but I could be wrong…it happens occasionally) that due to OEMS requiring transport capability for ALS providers, this was why they kept it in the GMCs and Freightshakers. Someone probably knows more about this, but I remember hearing something about it recently. I know in the ‘old’ days one of the reasons was the ‘dependability’ of the private services (prior to WCEMS). I also remember eharing that the RFD units would transport RFD personnel or other high ranking people in city government. But that could just be one of the many ‘folklore myths’ from the 70’s. I seem to remember, though, that Chief Puryear was transported on R-9…Anyone else?
DJ (Email) - 05/18/06 - 06:46

One way that RFD could impliment a four-person heavy rescue with present resources, if indeed the thinking was in that direction, would be to combine the resources of Rescue 14 and Rescue 19, promote one of the drivers on each shift to Captain, place both 1991 Freightliner/ALF units in reserve, and place the soon-to-be-old Haz-Mat 2 in service as Rescue X. In fact, there’s active rumor that the Haz-Mat 2 will become a rescue unit, versus a haz-mat support unit. Said speculation is believed to be false. I suspect the above ideas are nothing new.
Legeros - 05/18/06 - 17:39

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