08/20/09 29 W, 1 I - + 6 - 8 Mystery Apparatus

Here's a sneak peek of something shiny and red. Raise your hand if you can identify this one. Happy Friday.

This is Garner Fire Dept new rescue truck probally. I hear it is gonna be nice.
FVFDA (Email) - 08/20/09 - 21:56

Pierce PUC?
RescueRanger - 08/20/09 - 22:34

If it is Garners then it is a Velocity
Wormy - 08/20/09 - 23:32

So the rest of the County FDs get stuck with these POS Hackney/Spartan rescues and Garner gets a Pierce Velocity?
WTF - 08/21/09 - 06:33

Apples and oranges, my friend. Different fiscal years, different funding models, different processes.
Yes - 08/21/09 - 06:51

Yes is correct. As memory serves, the Wake County Fire Commission approved a different direction in the previous fiscal year, for replacement of rescue apparatus. There were a couple departments who qualified for replacing rescues. Garner, Zebulon, and… can’t remember. The departments sought different sized units, a contrast to the earlier fiscal year, where a county-wide spec served the purpose for replacing rescues at Hopkins, Stony Hill, and Wendell. The same approach to a county-wide spec was used for replacing engines, pumpers, tankers, and brush trucks, and to cost-effective effect. That’s the short version of the story. Other readers can expand or correct.
Legeros - 08/21/09 - 07:14

Plus they get money from the town of Garner. Sometimes they have to conform to the foolishness of the county and other times they get to operate as a real fire department, making actual intelligent decisions concerning apparatus and other matters.
Realist - 08/21/09 - 11:58

Sometimes you gotta know how to play the political game I guess
FVFDA - 08/21/09 - 14:10

That’s the new Range Rover 5 which will run out of the Gurnzey Blvd. Station on all level 3-12 box alarms. It will be equipped with the high angle spring tool as well as the new hydraulic verner caliper. That new hydraulic V.C. will saves lot’s of time on the fire ground as opposed to the older hand cranked version!

Lot’s of luck with the new wagon guys!
Kleetis MacAnurney (Email) - 08/21/09 - 15:18

Mike’s right. Both Garner and Zebulon were slated to get rescues and both departments’ trucks had a non-county share which had to be funded. Better said, the County didn’t just pay for the trucks as in most other cases. Zebulon went with a medium duty due to the amount of money available to be contributed by the Town. Garner went with large. The County only paid a portion (based on the size of rescue) – the departments/towns paid the rest. End result – since the County paid its maximum amount on these trucks, they’ve spent the same money regardless of the make/model. Whew. Kinda confusing.
Chris - 08/21/09 - 16:04

Hey, given the economy, I’m glad we are still able to get trucks. Look around the nation for some examples. Therefore, no need to whine. Look at what we do…. Garner FD rescued two the other morning!!! Take a moment and check-up… THAT’S WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR and that’s what it is all about. The trucks did not do that work, it was the people. Reflect and consider what is absolutely the most important asset in the fire service.

By the way, the Hackney/Spartans are no POS’s. They are good trucks. Drop by Stony Hill sometime and I’ll show you (or Wendell and Hopkins). The Spartan cab actually has some better attributes than the Pierce; and Hackney has a proven track record for quality construction. I can see where some folks may be “jaded” when something other than a Pierce is introduced in Wake County however, believe it or not there are other fire apparatus manufacturers out there.

My brother Chris is right… there are now different funding methods that are more efficient overall, so yes, there will be different applications as time moves forward and the economy sways. Y’all stay safe and stay SMART!!
A.Rich - 08/23/09 - 10:59

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t the town fund the Rescue Squads truck as well? Seems like this is a duplication of services. Given the economy, I wouldn’t think that this was a smart choice for the taxpayers. Just a few cents worth of my thoughts.
Curious - 08/27/09 - 12:30

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