10/16/09 149 W, 1 I - + 15 - 12 State Fair Fire Department

Western Wake is again providing contracted fire protection at the State Fair. Same place as always, based at a trailer over toward the Village of Yesteryear. They'll respond on fire and EMS calls. That is, fire and a lot of EMS calls. Staffing numbers 13 from morning till late night, and four from late night till morning. The Greenville Fire Department Fire Safety Clown Troupe makes an appearance today next Friday, October 23. They'll have three shows: 11:00 a.m., 1:30 p.m., and 3:00 p.m. The Fair guys are also distributing fire prevention materials donated by LGFCU and VFIS. The Western Wake crews are easy to spot, as they're typically being bothered by a guy with a camera in a Hawaiian Shirt. And don't forget your fair food, which this year reportedly includes chocolate-covered bacon and deep-fried Ho Ho's. See you at the next cardiac saves ceremony!

I have always wondered how much income does WWFD receive from the contract at the fairgrounds? Is this an open bidding process where other fire departments may submit or is it exclusive?
wondering - 10/16/09 - 23:46

I mean, it is there original district, isn’t it?
Silver - 10/17/09 - 01:00

I can’t remember how much the income is from the fair, I used to know, but can’t remember now. I’m sure that someone out there knows and MAY be willing to share. No, it is not an open bidding process, Silver is correct in that the fairgrounds fall within Western Wake’s fire district. But that would be an interesting topic for discussion, boy I could some heated exchanges about that!
Wayne - 10/17/09 - 01:46

Updated with corrected information about the Greenville Clown Troupe, which appears next Friday, not this past Friday.
Legeros - 10/18/09 - 14:49

These guys and gals do a great job at the NC State Fair!!

Although, as controversy would have it on Mike’s blog; I have heard stories of clandestine midnight cow-tipping excursions (from an anonymous “statuesque” WWFD Captain who shall remain nameless for now…)
A.C. Rich - 10/18/09 - 21:41

wondering… To answer your question, the fair is a "pass-thru" type event. As Silver said it is WWFR’s district, thereore we receive funding from the county to protect the fairgrounds and the football complex. As such we do not charge the NC State Fair or NC State University(football events) for services outside actual cost of delivery. Specifically, we do not charge a fee for apparatus committed to the fair. We commit E191, C19 (Kawasaki Mule) and B299 for the entire event, and TA198 every day the fair is open. As is done for law enforcement and EMS, funds are available from the NC State Fair for personnel costs for enhanced coverage requested by the State Fair. The decision on staffing is based on what we deem necessary with final approval by the NC State Fair. Yes, the personnel bill is quite hefty but it goes right back out to the personnel who log so many hours at this event.

If a private contractor were to do what we do you would see charges for apparatus, personnel, equipment and supplies. Think about how much that would cost for the 15 days that we have units on site.

Finally, under the county funding model, ANY funds generated by a department go against expenses of the department. So, if money were made on any such event it would be logged as income and decrease the amount of funding the department would receive for operating from the county.

If you’re at the Fair, stop by and say hi we’re down the hill from the NCSU ice cream booth just past the Village of Yesteryear along with units posted around the fairgrounds. Also, Mike has been out and spent part of a day with us and will be posting photos soon.
D.Cates - 10/19/09 - 10:56

I miss the NCSU Ice cream booth. Somebody please grab me a bowl and send it on over. I am sure A.C. or BIG can rig a container with liquid nitrogen or something.
Kermit - 10/19/09 - 17:19

Dry Ice will work just fine for ya!! ...and it’s less problematic than nitrogen!! Also, David – good info. You guys really deserve more!
A.C. Rich - 10/20/09 - 22:36

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