Razzing or Hazing - A blog quiz

Based on this blog discussion

1. You are called by your last name or position only.
	answered question		104
	skipped question		0
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		7.7%	8
Hazing		0.0%	0
Not sure		1.0%	1
NEITHER		91.3%	95

2. You are given a nickname and called only by that name.
	answered question		102
	skipped question		2
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		42.2%	43
Hazing		0.0%	0
Not sure		2.9%	3
NEITHER		54.9%	56

3. You are called probie, new boy, new girl, etc.
	answered question		104
	skipped question		0
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		64.4%	67
Hazing		1.0%	1
Not sure		1.0%	1
NEITHER		33.7%	35

4. Filling your boots with water / hiding your boots at the station?
	answered question		102
	skipped question		2
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		63.7%	65
Hazing		28.4%	29
Not sure		2.0%	2
NEITHER		5.9%	6

5. You have hot peppers added to your hot dog.
	answered question		104
	skipped question		0
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		74.0%	77
Hazing		21.2%	22
Not sure		1.0%	1
NEITHER		3.8%	4

6. You have cat food or dog food added to your food.
	answered question		104
	skipped question		0
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		17.3%	18
Hazing		75.0%	78
Not sure		2.9%	3
NEITHER		4.8%	5

7. You find baby powder in your boots.
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		82.5%	85
Hazing		8.7%	9
Not sure		1.9%	2
NEITHER		6.8%	7

8. You find shaving cream or water in your boots.
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		58.3%	60
Hazing		30.1%	31
Not sure		3.9%	4
NEITHER		7.8%	8

9. Your boots are hidden while on duty.
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		44.7%	46
Hazing		38.8%	40
Not Sure		4.9%	5
NEITHER		11.7%	12

10. Your bed is moved atop lockers, the roof, etc.
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		85.4%	88
Hazing		12.6%	13
Not sure		1.0%	1
NEITHER		1.0%	1

11. You find baby powder in your sheets.
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		84.5%	87
Hazing		11.7%	12
Not sure		1.9%	2
NEITHER		1.9%	2

12. You find black marker marks on your face.
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		58.3%	60
Hazing		38.8%	40
Not sure		1.9%	2
NEITHER		1.0%	1

13. You find your locker filled with packing peanuts.
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		92.2%	95
Hazing		3.9%	4
Not sure		0.0%	0
NEITHER		3.9%	4

14. You find your locker filled with shaving cream.
	answered question		101
	skipped question		3
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		76.2%	77
Hazing		18.8%	19
Not sure		4.0%	4
NEITHER		1.0%	1

15. You get doused with water inside the station.
	answered question		104
	skipped question		0
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		81.7%	85
Hazing		9.6%	10
Not sure		3.8%	4
NEITHER		4.8%	5

16. You get doused with water outside the station, with plenty of people watching.
	answered question		102
	skipped question		2
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		69.6%	71
Hazing		23.5%	24
Not sure		2.9%	3
NEITHER		3.9%	4

17. You are physically lifted and thrown into a dump tank, running shower, etc.
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		60.2%	62
Hazing		30.1%	31
Not sure		1.0%	1
NEITHER		8.7%	9

18. You are physically restrained and with unwanted physical contact.
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		5.8%	6
Hazing		85.4%	88
Not sure		1.0%	1
NEITHER		7.8%	8

19. Your car is moved during the night.
	answered question		104
	skipped question		0
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		82.7%	86
Hazing		8.7%	9
Not sure		2.9%	3
NEITHER		5.8%	6

20. Your car is sprayed with water at night, to freeze it.
	answered question		104
	skipped question		0
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		84.6%	88
Hazing		9.6%	10
Not sure		2.9%	3
NEITHER		2.9%	3

21. You are humorously corrected when you make a mistake
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		64.1%	66
Hazing		2.9%	3
Not sure		2.9%	3
NEITHER		30.1%	31

22. You are sternly corrected when you make a mistake.
	answered question		104
	skipped question		0
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		13.5%	14
Hazing		5.8%	6
Not sure		7.7%	8
NEITHER		73.1%	76

23. You are sternly corrected when you make a mistake, and with the crew watching or participating.
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		11.7%	12
Hazing		26.2%	27
Not sure		16.5%	17
NEITHER		45.6%	47

24. You are rarely spoken to around the station.
	answered question		102
	skipped question		2
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		9.8%	10
Hazing		19.6%	20
Not sure		25.5%	26
NEITHER		45.1%	46

25. You are assigned the daily task of checking off the apparatus.
	answered question		101
	skipped question		3
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		5.0%	5
Hazing		2.0%	2
Not sure		0.0%	0
NEITHER		93.1%	94

26. You are assigned the daily task of cleaning the station bathrooms.
	answered question		102
	skipped question		2
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		4.9%	5
Hazing		2.0%	2
Not sure		1.0%	1
NEITHER		92.2%	94

27. You are assigned the daily task of going to the grocery store.
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		5.8%	6
Hazing		0.0%	0
Not sure		1.9%	2
NEITHER		92.2%	95

28. You are assigned the daily task of keeping coffee brewed.
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		6.8%	7
Hazing		1.0%	1
Not sure		4.9%	5
NEITHER		87.4%	90

29. You are assigned the daily task of watch room detail.
	answered question		104
	skipped question		0
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		8.7%	9
Hazing		0.0%	0
Not sure		1.0%	1
NEITHER		90.4%	94

30. You are assigned the daily task of washing dishes
	answered question		102
	skipped question		2
		Response Percent	Response Count
Razzing		6.9%	7
Hazing		1.0%	1
Not sure		2.9%	3
NEITHER		89.2%	91

31. How many years have you been a firefighter? (Optional)
	answered question		104
	skipped question		0
		Response Percent	Response Count
1-4		9.6%	10
5-9		21.2%	22
10-19		34.6%	36
20+		30.8%	32
Aspiring		1.9%	2
N/A		1.9%	2

32. Career or volunteer? (Optional)
	answered question		104
	skipped question		0
		Response Percent	Response Count
Career		29.8%	31
Volunteer		20.2%	21
Both		47.1%	49
Neither		2.9%	3

33. Age? (Optional)
	answered question		104
	skipped question		0
		Response Percent	Response Count
18-24		6.7%	7
24-29		25.0%	26
30-39		42.3%	44
40-49		22.1%	23
50+		3.8%	4

34. Education? (Optional)
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
High School		10.7%	11
+ College Courses		39.8%	41
+ College Degree		38.8%	40
+ Degrees / Advanced Degree		10.7%	11

35. Gender? (Optional)
	answered question		103
	skipped question		1
		Response Percent	Response Count
Male		97.1%	100
Female		2.9%	3

36. Race? (Optional)
	answered question		101
	skipped question		3
		Response Percent	Response Count
White		94.1%	95
Black		1.0%	1
Hispanic or Latino		3.0%	3
Asian		0.0%	0
American Indian or Alaska Native		2.0%	2
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander		0.0%	0

37. Did you serve in the military? (Optional)
	answered question		102
	skipped question		2
		Response Percent	Response Count
Yes		18.6%	19
No		81.4%	83

38. Comments, Questions?
	answered question	24
	skipped question	80
		Response Count
		24

Comments

1. Nowadays you can't say anything is wrong or else you are wrong. I really feel that the fire service has become more of a business then a career / profession. Must of the people entering the fire service nowadays [come] from the corporate world into our world. These people for the most part have worked a 8, 10, [and] 12 hour day, they do not know how to survive a 24 hour shift work, 10 days a month, 120 days a year that we work, and then have to work at the very least one side job to make ends meet.

2. Good quiz. Interested in seeing the results. I wish you had "Part of your Job" as an answer.

3. Stern corrections are not hazing, but stern corrections that belittle or degrade the member is not acceptable. Tell them what they did wrong, then show them the right way. Belittling or degrading does nothing to correct the problem or improve relationships.

4. Obviously times have changed, the younger generation has a lot to learn. They were obviously giving what they wanted when they were young, and still today! New employees are still, under the radar until they are vested!!! Never assume that your job is safe.

5. For the most part, it depends on the situation, and how well you know the guys that you work with.

6. As a chief, there is a fine balance. Unfortunately, not all people have the balancing skills of a cat!

7. You should never mess with peoples equipment i.e.. fire boots. you can get somebody killed or hurt.

8. Learn the job, your momma doesn't work here

9. In looking at the last few questions...I feel that these simply come with the territory of being the new person on the company. I have seen it way to many times where the volunteer Captain or Chief gets hired with a municipal department and expects to come in passed the "probie stage". As for the questions about messing with someone's boots/turn out gear. I feel that this is neither hazing or razzing but plain stupid. This is something that is simply not tolerated. This is the fire service...and the fire service is the same nation wide. Earn your respect, pay your dues and shut up.

10. Station duties are part of normal job for lower ranking personnel. Fire gear should never be touched.

11. Job duties-however menial-don't qualify as either razzing or hazing. And messing with fire gear in any way is out of line and should not be tolerated by anyone.

12. In reference to some of those things, especially the all the boot questions, you don't screw with someone's turnout gear. That's one thing for SURE that's off-limits, hazing OR razzing. Now, the baby powder in the boots is non-damaging and doesn't affect how the boots are put on (it actually would make it easier) and wouldn't require them to be taken out of service to clean. But since we're in the business of emergency preparedness, you DON'T screw with someone's gear.

The locker thing, the packing peanuts are OK to me, even though it's an invasion of your privacy b/c you tend to keep personal items in there. The shaving cream is, to me, a violation, as it's potentially damaging to your items, you may need a quick change of clothes, or they would have to take your stuff out of there to prank you.

Several of the questions' definitions all depend on who is doing what and how it's perceived by the target. Personally, I've had a red helmet and his protégé doing stuff to me not to haze or razz, but to be downright mean. And it became a trickle-down, as the new boys who weren't even off probation decided they could join into the shenanigans (razzing, hazing, all of it) while they were still on probation.

Basically, OUR leadership has failed in that one red helmet decided it was his place to show other members what he really thinks of them.

13. Enjoyed it

14. Restraint and unwanted physical contact is ASSAULT.

15. Some of my answers are neither because they do not fall into either category. Hiding or damaging boots of ff on duty is unacceptable-therefore neither. Assignment of menial (daily duty) details is part of job description-therefore neither. Unwanted physical contact is another unacceptable-therefore neither. Not being talked to, or called only by last name and rank-not really either -sounds more like personality issue as opposed to razzing/hazing. I would love to see other peoples comments to see how these particular items are viewed.

16. I wish there was an "Off Limits" choice. Some things were not hazing or razzing but I though should not be done for safety reasons (i.e. mess with duty gear while on duty preventing a rapid emergency response). I didn't think "Neither" was appropriate b/c I interpreted that as "just the life of a fire fighter" (such as assigning duties to the new boy).

17. If we don't learn what "hazing" is and what "razzing" is we are going to lose 200 years of tradition that most of us have worked extremely hard to preserve. Not only do we need to learn the definition of it, our Human Resources people need to understand it also

18. Assigned daily tasks are your job!

19. The nature of nicknames and "corrections" can be broad and may be too general a question to properly "categorize"

20. New firefighter duties such as going to the store, watch, washing dishes etc. is by no way razzing or hazing it;s a duty around the firehouse house that has to be done.

21. Should have part of job choice

22. Some of the questions would be answered differently if I were a female or a different race

23. Excellent Quiz/topic cant wait to see the results!

24. If the questions on boots are referring to turnout gear then it is off limits, if it is for station boots it is razzing