Relocating Fire Station 3 – November Update

This is an ongoing blog posting about the project to relocate Raleigh Fire Station 3.

Contents 

  • Nov 2025 – November Update
  • Feb 2025 – Construction Update
  • Nov 2024 – Design + Public Art Unveiled
  • Nov 2024 – Community Meeting Scheduled
  • Oct 2024 – Site Clearing Started
  • Aug 2024 – Construction Bid Awarded
  • May 2024 – Construction Bids Solicited
  • Mar 2022 – Call for Artists
  • Mar 2022 – Official Project Site
  • May 2021 – Design Contract Awarded
  • Nov 2017 – Property Purchased
  • Earlier Project History
  • Legacy Station 3

November 2025 – November Update

New Fire Station 3 on Rock Quarry Road is nearing completion. Occupancy is expected in December. Engine 3 will relocate from their current quarters at 13 S. East Street, from their 1951 engine house. 

February 2025 – Construction Update Continue reading ‘Relocating Fire Station 3 – November Update’ »

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Run Card for Louisville Cargo Jet Crash

This is a blog version of a Facebook posting from November 5, 2025. 


Pleasure Park Ridge Fire District photos

Here’s a run card created by reader Kameron Brown–plus annotations added by Legeros–for the major incident in Louisville, KY, on November 3, 2025, involving an cargo jet crash + commercial building(s) + petroleum recycling facility just past the runway at Louisville International Airport.

UPS Flight 2976 crashed about 5:15 p.m. as it was departing the airport. The McDonnell Douglas MD-11FF crashed into multiple commercial buildings in an industrial area just south of the airport property, in the [initially reported] area of Fern Valley and Grade Lane.

Okolona Fire Department was first-due. Numerous fire departments were dispatched, including a multi-alarm response from Louisville. Extensive mutual aid was sent from neighboring counties. Some resources–notable ARFF units and foam quantities–travelled over 60 road miles to the scene. Over 200 responders were on scene.

As of Wednesday night, the there were nine fatalities including the three crew members, plus 16 people unaccounted for, and 11 people injured. As of Thursday night, November 6, the death toll had risen to 13 victims. 

Google for latest news reports, including updated fatality and injury counts and damage reports. Or listen to radio traffic from the incident: Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3

See also Facebook discussion of this run card. See also initial Facebook incident discussion.

Note the number of departments with foam resources. That’s due to the many distilleries in the state. 

Counts by Type

ARFF crash trucks – 7
Bat Chiefs – 10
Other Chiefs – 18
Engines – 36
Foam Trailers – 4
Foam Resources, Other – 3
Fuel Trucks – 1
Haz-Mat Units – 9
Ladder Trucks – 14 (Quint designation + 3 Trucks/Towers)
Rehab – 1
Rescues – 8 (not including six airport ARFF units, also Rescue designation)
Tankers – 2 (or more?)
Utility Units – 4

Airport Fire Departments Continue reading ‘Run Card for Louisville Cargo Jet Crash’ »

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MEDIC Starts Service in Charlotte – November 1, 1978

This is a blog version of a Facebook posting from November 6, 2025. 

Morning reading. How ’bout some EMS history from Mecklenburg County and Charlotte. Forty-seven years ago this week, MEDIC, the Mecklenburg EMS Agency, began operating as the county’s new ambulance service. They were placed in service at 12:01 a.m. on Tuesday, November 1, 1978.

They assumed the role from Mecklenburg Emergency Medical Service (MEMS), a private company that had provided service since 1960. Originally called Charlotte Ambulance Service, Inc., they were renamed MEMS in 1974.

Here’s a deep dive on the transition. Older readers who recall or lived these events, reach out with clarifications or corrections. Thank you.

Replacement Ambulance Service

MEDIC was intended as a replacement for MEMS. The county created their own ambulance agency after concerns about MEMS and their level of service.[1][2] But MEMS owner Robby Brandes tried to stop the county from operating their own ambulances. He filed a lawsuit in superior court that was rejected by a judge in August 1978.

After MEDIC started operating in November 1, 1978, MEMS also remained in operation and even though their contract with the county had expired at midnight on October 31, 1978. More on that in a moment.

[1] The county first tried to buy MEMS, but were never able to reach an agreement. The owner originally wanted $450,000, and the county offered $289,000. [CN, 11/2/78, 11/3/78]

[2] On May 1, 1978, the county commissioners authorized funding to establish the Mecklenburg Office of Emergency Services. They granted the office the authority to administer and operate the new EMS system. The county was oversaw the Central Medical Emergency Dispatch (CEMD) system.

Snapshot Of The New Service Continue reading ‘MEDIC Starts Service in Charlotte – November 1, 1978’ »

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New Hope Station 2, Wendell Station 2, and No Man’s Land

Wake County history hit. For our Sunday reading, let’s take a deep dive into the story of New Hope Station 2 (now their main station) and Wendell Station 2. Turning the clock back at the fall of 1987, when county commissioners considered proposals to add fire protection to the so-called “no man’s land” in eastern Wake County.

Some 6,300 people lived in the area that was surrounded by four volunteer fire departments: New Hope, Knightdale, Rolesville, and Wendell. But each was more than five miles away, which meant longer response times and higher insurance rates.

Reported the News & Observer during that period, each department answered calls in the area under a “cooperative agreement,” but their trucks had to travel “seven or eight miles over congested roads” to reach the area.

Two of the departments, New Hope and Wendell, each wanted to establish “substations” in the heart of the area, which could “support only one department.” And the “winner would receive the right to tax property valued at $100.”

But the issue had proved difficult to resolve, because both New Hope and Wendell had been serving the area for 30 years and without receiving any tax revenue.

One homeowner was cited as paying about $400 per year for insurance in the “rural, unrated fire district.” That meant they had the highest insurance premium bracket.

But if the area became an “official fire district,” insurance on a $100,000 home could drop as much as $175, noted the story.

Source: News & Observer, September 7, 1987.

Before We Continue

Continue reading ‘New Hope Station 2, Wendell Station 2, and No Man’s Land’ »

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Not a Former Firehouse in Raleigh

This is a blog version of a Facebook posting from August 2025.

Not an old engine house. Located behind the Quorum Center on West Jones Street, this old building in downtown Raleigh is not a former fire station. However, that’s the story that some Raleigh-ites have heard over the years and decades.

That’s also what the News and Observer said about the building on June 12, 1971, which at the time was operating as a coffee house run by high school members of nearby Edenton Street United Methodist Church, located one block east. It was called the Ark, and it opened in April 1970. See article in comments.

“Noah had nothing to do with building this ark”

Noted the newspaper with that eye-catching headline, the old building was owned by the church and “may have been a garage or a fire station.” The Senior High Methodist Youth Fellowship members converted the building into a meeting space and coffee shops.

They raised money through donations from parishioners, knocked down brick walls, poured a cement floor, added bathrooms along with heating and air conditioning.

Local history hunter Heather Leah learned of the building last week and asked about its history in the Facebook group You know you grew up in Raleigh, North Carolina when… Here’s that posting

Respondents remembered the building’s history as the Ark as well as a later outreach ministries center. Others recalled the stories that it served a fire station during the horse-drawn era of the fire department.

The building had an upstairs section as well as a hole in the floor, which, as the story was told, was where a presumed fire pole was located. They recalled that when the church took ownership of the property in the 1960s, the hole was widened, and a railing was erected. This allowed those upstairs and downstairs to see each other.

But Was the Building Ever Used as a Fire Station?

Negative says Legeros, who is 99.9% sure that the building never ever served the Raleigh Fire Department, and notably not during the horse-drawn years, which ended soon after the volunteer fire department changed to the current career organization in 1912.

It more likely served as a carriage house, e.g. stables for horses and their wagons. Observe what looks like a beam over the second-story window, which would have been used to hoist hay bales for storage in a loft space. With floor openings to feed the horses by dropping hay onto the first floor.

Another clue is the sharp A-frame roof, which would have been ill-suited to bedrooms and other second floor living quarters for the firemen.

Mike Legeros photos, August 2025

The strongest evidence that the building isn’t a former fire station is the absence of any written citations in the dozens (hundreds?) of historical records that Legeros has combed since the early 2000s.

For example, wasn’t noted in the fire department annual reports[1], nor listed in the city directory listings[2], nor shown in Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps[3]. Nor in newspaper articles, nor in research and writings of earlier historians, like Elizabeth Reid Murray.

[1] legeros.com/ralwake/raleigh/history/reports/annual-reports
[2] digitalnc.org/collections/city-directories
[3] flickr.com/photos/raleighfiremuseum/albums/72157687720558482

That’s our interpretation of the building and its history, as cited and observed thus far. But let’s add one disclaimer. No, we’re not 100% certain that the building never ever and ever never housed a horse-drawn “fire wagon.” We’d need a time machine for that degree of verification.

In the aforementioned history posting[4], one of the respondents recalls its history as a “carriage house for some of the large old houses along Edenton Street.” That seems the best explanation.

[4] https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Nb5mMkZBc

Where to find documentation of the building’s history? Digital Sanborn Maps[5] are a good, go-to start. We’ve browsed through them but haven’t yet found anything other than an unlabeled drawing of the building.

[5] https://guides.lib.unc.edu/historicalmaps/sanborn

Digitized deeds and property maps are the next step, via the Wake County web site.

Props to Heather for re-finding the building and starting the conversations to re-learn about its history.

Learn More About Raleigh’s Former Fire Stations

Here’s a page with all known/documented volunteer-era fire station locations.

Here’s a visual history and map. (PDF)

See a Scary Amount of Raleigh Fire History

Here’s our master page of all things hysterically historical about RFD.

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Wake County Fire Service Governance Timeline

Chart updated October 15, 2025. Posting created August 23, 2023. This is a blog version of an earlier Facebook posting.

Presenting a new infographic, a high-level history of fire service governance in Wake County.

Source is this research on the history of Wake County fire protection and fire service governance.

See also this history chart of all Wake County fire departments.

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Raleigh and Wake County Planning Maps 1970 and 2025

Comparing maps that appeared in a City of Raleigh fire protection planning document in 1970 with other map data:

Sources:

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Deadliest Mass Shootings in North Carolina History

Research notes on the deadliest mass shootings in North Carolina history, expanded from this Facebook posting on September 28, 2025. These notes are still undergoing review and revisions. 

Supplement to Mike Legeros deadliest disaster database

Abbreviations: SP (Single Perpetrator) MP (Multiple Perpetrators)

Type

Incident

Date / Location

Killed

Wounded

Total Casualties

Source

SP

Carthage Nursing Home Shooting

March 29, 2009, Carthage, NC 

3 (including perpetrator) 

11 

Wikipedia “Carthage nursing home shooting”   

SP

1906 Asheville Shooting, business district

November 13, 1906, Asheville, NC 

12 

17 

Wikipedia “1906 Asheville shooting”   

SP

East Raleigh / Hedingham Shooting

October 13, 2022, Raleigh, NC 

3 (including perpetrator) 

8

Legeros “Historical Perspective on Mass Shootings in Raleigh”, web

SP

North Hills Sniper

May 29, 1972, Raleigh, NC 

4 (including perpetrator)

12 

Legeros “Sniper Attacks North Hills Mall”, web

SP

Old Salisbury Road Shooting

July 17, 1988, Winston‑Salem, NC 

6 (including perpetrator) 

10 

Wikipedia “Old Salisbury Road shooting”  

SP

Luigi’s Restaurant Shooting

August 6, 1993, Fayetteville, NC 

7 (or 8 in some accounts) 

11 

Wikipedia “Luigi’s Restaurant shooting  

SP? Wilmington, Kidder Street, House Party April 3, 2021, Wilmington, NC 3 4 7  

SP

Southport Waterfront / American Fish Company Shooting

September 27, 2025, Southport, NC 

5

8

Wikipedia “2025 Southport shooting”

SP

Shelby Bookstore Murders

January 17, 1987, Shelby, NC 

Wikipedia “Shelby bookstore murders

SP

UNC Charlotte Classroom Shooting

April 30, 2019, Charlotte, NC 

Wikipedia “2019 University of North Carolina at Charlotte shooting” 

MP

Wilmington Insurrection

November 10, 1898, Wilmington, NC

14 to 300

 

 

Wikipedia “Wilmington massacre” 

MP

Greensboro Massacre, protest march

November 3, 1979, Greensboro, NC 

12

17 

Wikipedia “Greensboro massacre” 

MP Charlotte Juneteenth Shooting, block party June 22, 2020, Charlotte, NC 4 10 14 Various

 

Exclusions

Excluded incident types include:

  • Barricaded subjects, such as the five people injured in Gastonia on November 7, 1948. Source: Gaston Gazette, 11/8/48.
  • Occurred during wartime, such as the Shelton Laurel massacre in 1863 in Madison County during the Civil War

Other Notable Mass Shootings, with Fewer Fatalities

  • Fort Bragg, October 27, 1995 – 1 killed, 20 injured after sniper opened fire at 6:30 a.m. on some 1,300 soldiers on a football field preparing for a morning run. Source: Charlotte Observer, 10/28/95. 
  • Catawba County, June 1, 2025 – 1 killed, 11 injured. House party. Multiple perpetrators, from news reports. 

Other Mass Shootings, Selected Citations

  • Goldsboro, June 24?, 1973 – Seymour-Johnson AFB hospital – 2 killed, 3 injured. Source: Gaston Gazette, 6/25/73
  • Research Triangle Park, August 30, 1983 – IBM – One killed, four injured
  • Chapel Hill, 1995 – Downtown – 2 killed, 1 injured
  • Greenville, June 21, 2013 – Wal-Mart – Three men shot in parking lot, fourth man shot in parking lot of law firm across the street. No fatalities.
  • Mecklenburg County, MS-13 gang shooting, April 13, 2003 – 1 killed, 3 injured at Copperhead Island Park. Multiple suspects charged. 

Notes and Disclaimers

  • The 1906 Asheville case is very old; some sources list 6 dead (including the perpetrator) and 12 injured. 
  • The Greensboro Massacre has multiple sources; casualty counts vary slightly in different accounts. 
  • There may be additional smaller or less publicized shootings in NC that had 4+ victims (dead or wounded) that are not well documented online or are buried in local newspapers or archives.
  • The counts above sometimes include the perpetrator; in other cases, they exclude. Some sources are ambiguous.

 

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